Well I'll be honest, I'm not exactly sure what to talk about. But here goes:
We talked in class about how Benjy has no sense of time, Quentin is obsessed with it, and Jason never was given it, and I think that plays a large role in this section. Jason constantly seems to be looking for time he doesn't have, time to eat lunch, time to watch over Miss Quentin, time to make it big in the stock market. Jason is constantly looking to one up people or gain control because he feels cheated out of something life owed him. (world's-biggest-chip-on-shoulder complex).
The section starts very abruptly. "Once a bitch, always a bitch." He sees the world the way he wants to see it, and is constantly flitting to whatever new issue strikes him, or whatever he chooses to whine about next. He goes on rants about people, and the chances he never got. And it seems that through every scene he proves himself to be more and more evil and more and more heartless.
An interesting thing that was mentioned in class was that fact that even as a child Jason was demonic. He cut up Benjy's dolls just to upset him. That makes the justification that he has been kept from opportunities that the others had a less valid explaination for his malice.
I found this section to be very circuitous. It constantly comes back to the same few ideas - Jason is whining, the mother (WHO I HATE!!!!) is dying and such a burden *rolls eyes,* Quentin is a slut, Caddy comes around. Nothing new ever happens. It is the same scenario everyday. This is the life Jason and the Compson family have been confined to. They had their grief, and their sorrows, and their resentment, and that is all. Jason looks for people to blame, then he trys to assert his strength and independence (repeatedly telling his boss if you don't like the way I work you know what you can do about it, and threatening to whip Quentin into shape). The section ends with him portraying himself as some saintly martyr whom everyone takes advantage of. It is the persona he constantly tries to adopt for himself to evoke sympathy.
Jason and his mother both need to get over themselves before I find some way to inflict physical pain upon them!
I suppose that the section's structure changes from that of the other characters. Quentin's section is very disjointed and confusing without any punctuations to separate his thoughts. He over thinks everything from minor details to memories and the time it takes to get from one to the next. Benjy's section barely makes sense in that it has no structure of time and in the general workings of his mind. Time means nothing to him because the present is wrapped up in the past, so it becomes the present.
Jason's section, although mostly linear in its sequence, is just as difficult to understand as the other two. His mannerisms are despicable, he rants on and on about how the world owes him for the misfortunes that befell him. He blames everyone for the way his life turned out, and therefore thinks it necessary to insult every character he comes in contact with.
Jason’s section is the simplest out of all the sections. The prose is simple compared to Benjy’s section that presented the issue of time. Quentin’s section focused on the details of the mind. However, Jason’s section recorded his thoughts—simple thoughts.
It is funny how Jason is the meanest character but his section is the clearest and most vivid.
It is really important that Jason’s section is later in the book because otherwise our view of Caddy would be different. If Jason’s section was first, we would see Caddy as this evil girl (especially since her name is not supposed to be said).
Well Jason's section is definitely the most easy to understand and linear of the three (sorry to reiterate whoever posted last) but things of the past haunt him as well. However, he's really selfish so those "things of the past" are him losing the banking job because of the separation of Caddy and Herbert.
This was the only section that was truly "all about" the character at hand, at least in his perspective. Benjy's section barely focused on his character at all, and as self-absorbed as Quentin may be, he developed the character of Caddy as well. However, Jason's section was quite literally all about Jason, which differs in structure and content from other sections.
Jason’s section is nowhere near as stylized as the previous two. He does not constantly reflect on the past as his sibling had, and this makes his narrative read like a normal book. Things occur in a linear progression, seemingly violating Faulkner’s belief that time does not exist. Previously, the author put an emphasis on a character’s sensations over the objective world around them. Jason is completely in sync with his material environment, and his thoughts proceed with the world around him. In fact, he may be Faulkner’s satire of what the south will become if it gives in to the north’s industrial, materialistic, man-made life styles. People will become increasingly greedy and materialistic. They will also lose all of their kindness along the way, as money making machines have no feelings. Faulkner, like many southerners, probably had idealized the Yeomen farmer and the agrarian lifestyle and hated to see the south abandon those ideals.
Jason's section is significantly different from the other sections. Of all the sections we have read so far, it is the closest to a normal flow that we are used to in a novel. Time goes along in a pretty linear manner which is an exception in this book. There are a lot of flashbacks to past events kind of like the reoccurring events in the previous section.
The entire section is dominated by Jason's selfishness and overbearing personality. Jason continually blames Caddy for his firing but never looks to himself for any responsibility for any of his flaws. He is also extremely racist to the point that it becomes irritating towards the end of the section. Jason is also extremely mean as evidenced with his burning of the tickets in front of Luster. Faulkner intended Jason to be an evil and mean character but his actions and mannerisms are so overdone that by the end of the section he becomes increasingly satirical and ridiculous.
The structure of this chapter is clearly very different from the others. Benjy's was completely misjointed and sporadic, and Quentin's was completely in the lines of stream of consciousness. I think although Jason's section was the simplest, it sort of meshed the two. There are qualities of both Benjy and Quentin involved, in the sense that Jason has a one-sided perspective of things as Benjy does, while he simultaneously maintains Quentin's selfishness. However, Jason is a complete complainer and the structure of his section circulates just as his whining does. I think this circulatory idea proves just why his chapter seems to never end!
Clearly, Jason's section has been different because it is far more simpler than either Benjy's section or Quentin's section. Also, it is simple because it is far more linear, and because of this, it was a quicker read than the first two sections. The structure as we said in class of the sections has been very purposeful. We started with Benjy's so we felt stupid reading Quentin's, and as Zoe said, we read Jason's section after already establishing our views on other characters so it would not alter our perceptions. Within Jason's section, I felt that there were a lot of run on sentences, which kind of represent his continuation to bitch about everything. He is such an annoying little baby. But, I think that throughout the section, he comes off this way. Beginning with, "once a bitch, always a bitch," he starts the section off as obnoxious and he does not change throughout, just like the language remains simple and the sentences continue to be longer.
Okay so everyone pretty much covered the question, so I'll present something else- a possible WHY instead of a possible HOW. I think maybe the reason Faulkner makes Jason's section the most clear (so far) is because like the other two, it is in the first person, and Jason sees the world in a very straightforward, black-and-white manner. Basically, his perspective is that everyone is in the wrong in some manner, which is a strong but simple belief. His thoughts don't need to be consumed with the pressure of time or sensations; he's too busy criticizing others. I think if this section were similar to the other two in the sense that I would have found it confusing or would have had to make inferences, the development of this evil character wouldn't be as intense.
It was sort of a relief reading Jason's section after Quentin's and Benji's sections. Because the structure and language were easier to understand, Jason's section was easier to follow.
This section also contains some elements of both Benji's and Quentin's section. Although he does in a very different way, like Quentin, Jason shows immense frustration for the failure of his family. Also, like Benji's section, this section has much dialogue and Jason writes as if he speaks. However, this section being much less confusing and disjointed certainly shows how Jason is the only sane member of his family.
I agree with everyone who said that Jason's section was easier to read and that the structure was more linear and simple. There were still a few interesting changes in structure that made it different from the rest of the book. I think that even though the section was more linear, it still seemed to follow Jason's thought processes. Sometimes, the section would be very clear and concise with dialogue, whereas sometimes he would drag on and on, with run-on sentences and repetitive thoughts. For example, on page 232 to 234 where he chases Quentin and keeps talking about the "dam show man in a red tie that everybody would look at and think what kind of a dam man would wear a red tie"(234). The section was also vague at some points. In the beginning, it's difficult to tell who is talking and whom he is referring to. Because he does not refer to Caddy by name, he calls her "she," but he does the same for Quentin. It gets confusing. The language definitely seems more simple with subject-verb beginning such as "I walked up to Russell's. He had a pump"(243). But it also gets more complex, with literary devices, for example anaphora: "Try to make her believe that I dont know who he was. Try to make her believe that I didn't miss ten feet of catching you in that ditch. Try to make her believe you were standing up, too"(242). It contains some elements from both other sections and the annoying structure that makes the section drag on definitely fits and emphasizes the narrator.
Although Jason's section for me was the hardest to get through because of his incessant complaining, it did have the simplest structure of all of the sections so far. Finally, Faulkner employs the use of time which was definitely a relief. It allows us to understand the true sequence of events, clarifies relationships between characters, etc. Although the structure remains very linear and more like the typical novel throughout most of the section, I did notice that during times of extreme anger and frustration, Jason's narration does start to veer toward a more fluid narration. This mirrors much of the streams of consciousness seen earlier in the book. He does use a few very long run-ons but his section is by far the easiest to follow.
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Well I'll be honest, I'm not exactly sure what to talk about. But here goes:
We talked in class about how Benjy has no sense of time, Quentin is obsessed with it, and Jason never was given it, and I think that plays a large role in this section. Jason constantly seems to be looking for time he doesn't have, time to eat lunch, time to watch over Miss Quentin, time to make it big in the stock market. Jason is constantly looking to one up people or gain control because he feels cheated out of something life owed him. (world's-biggest-chip-on-shoulder complex).
The section starts very abruptly. "Once a bitch, always a bitch." He sees the world the way he wants to see it, and is constantly flitting to whatever new issue strikes him, or whatever he chooses to whine about next. He goes on rants about people, and the chances he never got. And it seems that through every scene he proves himself to be more and more evil and more and more heartless.
An interesting thing that was mentioned in class was that fact that even as a child Jason was demonic. He cut up Benjy's dolls just to upset him. That makes the justification that he has been kept from opportunities that the others had a less valid explaination for his malice.
I found this section to be very circuitous. It constantly comes back to the same few ideas - Jason is whining, the mother (WHO I HATE!!!!) is dying and such a burden *rolls eyes,* Quentin is a slut, Caddy comes around. Nothing new ever happens. It is the same scenario everyday. This is the life Jason and the Compson family have been confined to. They had their grief, and their sorrows, and their resentment, and that is all. Jason looks for people to blame, then he trys to assert his strength and independence (repeatedly telling his boss if you don't like the way I work you know what you can do about it, and threatening to whip Quentin into shape). The section ends with him portraying himself as some saintly martyr whom everyone takes advantage of. It is the persona he constantly tries to adopt for himself to evoke sympathy.
Jason and his mother both need to get over themselves before I find some way to inflict physical pain upon them!
and that's all I got.
I suppose that the section's structure changes from that of the other characters. Quentin's section is very disjointed and confusing without any punctuations to separate his thoughts. He over thinks everything from minor details to memories and the time it takes to get from one to the next. Benjy's section barely makes sense in that it has no structure of time and in the general workings of his mind. Time means nothing to him because the present is wrapped up in the past, so it becomes the present.
Jason's section, although mostly linear in its sequence, is just as difficult to understand as the other two. His mannerisms are despicable, he rants on and on about how the world owes him for the misfortunes that befell him. He blames everyone for the way his life turned out, and therefore thinks it necessary to insult every character he comes in contact with.
Jason’s section is the simplest out of all the sections. The prose is simple compared to Benjy’s section that presented the issue of time. Quentin’s section focused on the details of the mind. However, Jason’s section recorded his thoughts—simple thoughts.
It is funny how Jason is the meanest character but his section is the clearest and most vivid.
It is really important that Jason’s section is later in the book because otherwise our view of Caddy would be different. If Jason’s section was first, we would see Caddy as this evil girl (especially since her name is not supposed to be said).
Well Jason's section is definitely the most easy to understand and linear of the three (sorry to reiterate whoever posted last) but things of the past haunt him as well. However, he's really selfish so those "things of the past" are him losing the banking job because of the separation of Caddy and Herbert.
This was the only section that was truly "all about" the character at hand, at least in his perspective. Benjy's section barely focused on his character at all, and as self-absorbed as Quentin may be, he developed the character of Caddy as well. However, Jason's section was quite literally all about Jason, which differs in structure and content from other sections.
Jason’s section is nowhere near as stylized as the previous two. He does not constantly reflect on the past as his sibling had, and this makes his narrative read like a normal book. Things occur in a linear progression, seemingly violating Faulkner’s belief that time does not exist. Previously, the author put an emphasis on a character’s sensations over the objective world around them. Jason is completely in sync with his material environment, and his thoughts proceed with the world around him. In fact, he may be Faulkner’s satire of what the south will become if it gives in to the north’s industrial, materialistic, man-made life styles. People will become increasingly greedy and materialistic. They will also lose all of their kindness along the way, as money making machines have no feelings. Faulkner, like many southerners, probably had idealized the Yeomen farmer and the agrarian lifestyle and hated to see the south abandon those ideals.
Jason's section is significantly different from the other sections. Of all the sections we have read so far, it is the closest to a normal flow that we are used to in a novel. Time goes along in a pretty linear manner which is an exception in this book. There are a lot of flashbacks to past events kind of like the reoccurring events in the previous section.
The entire section is dominated by Jason's selfishness and overbearing personality. Jason continually blames Caddy for his firing but never looks to himself for any responsibility for any of his flaws. He is also extremely racist to the point that it becomes irritating towards the end of the section. Jason is also extremely mean as evidenced with his burning of the tickets in front of Luster. Faulkner intended Jason to be an evil and mean character but his actions and mannerisms are so overdone that by the end of the section he becomes increasingly satirical and ridiculous.
The structure of this chapter is clearly very different from the others. Benjy's was completely misjointed and sporadic, and Quentin's was completely in the lines of stream of consciousness. I think although Jason's section was the simplest, it sort of meshed the two. There are qualities of both Benjy and Quentin involved, in the sense that Jason has a one-sided perspective of things as Benjy does, while he simultaneously maintains Quentin's selfishness. However, Jason is a complete complainer and the structure of his section circulates just as his whining does. I think this circulatory idea proves just why his chapter seems to never end!
Clearly, Jason's section has been different because it is far more simpler than either Benjy's section or Quentin's section. Also, it is simple because it is far more linear, and because of this, it was a quicker read than the first two sections. The structure as we said in class of the sections has been very purposeful. We started with Benjy's so we felt stupid reading Quentin's, and as Zoe said, we read Jason's section after already establishing our views on other characters so it would not alter our perceptions. Within Jason's section, I felt that there were a lot of run on sentences, which kind of represent his continuation to bitch about everything. He is such an annoying little baby. But, I think that throughout the section, he comes off this way. Beginning with, "once a bitch, always a bitch," he starts the section off as obnoxious and he does not change throughout, just like the language remains simple and the sentences continue to be longer.
Okay so everyone pretty much covered the question, so I'll present something else- a possible WHY instead of a possible HOW. I think maybe the reason Faulkner makes Jason's section the most clear (so far) is because like the other two, it is in the first person, and Jason sees the world in a very straightforward, black-and-white manner. Basically, his perspective is that everyone is in the wrong in some manner, which is a strong but simple belief. His thoughts don't need to be consumed with the pressure of time or sensations; he's too busy criticizing others. I think if this section were similar to the other two in the sense that I would have found it confusing or would have had to make inferences, the development of this evil character wouldn't be as intense.
It was sort of a relief reading Jason's section after Quentin's and Benji's sections. Because the structure and language were easier to understand, Jason's section was easier to follow.
This section also contains some elements of both Benji's and Quentin's section. Although he does in a very different way, like Quentin, Jason shows immense frustration for the failure of his family. Also, like Benji's section, this section has much dialogue and Jason writes as if he speaks.
However, this section being much less confusing and disjointed certainly shows how Jason is the only sane member of his family.
I agree with everyone who said that Jason's section was easier to read and that the structure was more linear and simple. There were still a few interesting changes in structure that made it different from the rest of the book. I think that even though the section was more linear, it still seemed to follow Jason's thought processes. Sometimes, the section would be very clear and concise with dialogue, whereas sometimes he would drag on and on, with run-on sentences and repetitive thoughts. For example, on page 232 to 234 where he chases Quentin and keeps talking about the "dam show man in a red tie that everybody would look at and think what kind of a dam man would wear a red tie"(234). The section was also vague at some points. In the beginning, it's difficult to tell who is talking and whom he is referring to. Because he does not refer to Caddy by name, he calls her "she," but he does the same for Quentin. It gets confusing. The language definitely seems more simple with subject-verb beginning such as "I walked up to Russell's. He had a pump"(243). But it also gets more complex, with literary devices, for example anaphora: "Try to make her believe that I dont know who he was. Try to make her believe that I didn't miss ten feet of catching you in that ditch. Try to make her believe you were standing up, too"(242). It contains some elements from both other sections and the annoying structure that makes the section drag on definitely fits and emphasizes the narrator.
Although Jason's section for me was the hardest to get through because of his incessant complaining, it did have the simplest structure of all of the sections so far.
Finally, Faulkner employs the use of time which was definitely a relief. It allows us to understand the true sequence of events, clarifies relationships between characters, etc.
Although the structure remains very linear and more like the typical novel throughout most of the section, I did notice that during times of extreme anger and frustration, Jason's narration does start to veer toward a more fluid narration. This mirrors much of the streams of consciousness seen earlier in the book. He does use a few very long run-ons but his section is by far the easiest to follow.
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